翻译：baby_jaebeom转自2PM吧
“insider2pm.wordpress.com
早前已经有人放过这个网的消息於吧中。他们拥有的内幕消息一直都很可信，我自己都跟着他们的网站快2个月了。很多事情他们都比所有人早知道，他们认识JYPE的高层。因为现在是非常时期，他们和韩饭都极之赞成抵制，他们鼓励我们发信至fan@jype.com去。
然后就是他们一直不断都回答着来自不同地方的HOTTESTS的问题，他们用formspring.me去让别人问问题，他们会和他们认识的内幕人联络再回答。因为我看见最近他们的update都十分重要，我想我应该翻译给大家看，我亦得到他们的同意了。
如果大家有什麽问题想问，想我替你翻译帮你去问也可以。他们不一定会回答每个人的问题所以不要责怪他们。他们差不多每秒都在接收不同的问题，已尽力回答所有问题的了。
**这些消息信不信由你，我会做我觉得该做的。
***我的中文不太好，请见谅。”
From：baby_jaebeom
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先翻译问题和回答：
is there any way jay can come back to 2PM? and whats that personal thing he did that is supposedly worse than the myspace scandal?
有什麽办法带JAY回2PM？究竟所谓的个人原因是否比MYSPACE的事件更严重？
There was no personal thing. That was just a cover-up excuse.
根本没有任何个人原因，那是一个籍口来骗大家
Do you think the boys have been able to talk to Jay since all these rumors have happened and such?
你认为6子有没有於传闻被散播后跟JAY谈论过?
No they haven't been allowed to contact Jay since the beginning of the year.
没有，他们由年头开始不被准许和JAY联络
Have the 6 boys lost hope? by annnsow
他们6子没有失去希望吧？
Not. At. All. (:
完全没有(
how is jype reacting to the fans? and the anger??? and the members QUITTING fan cafes?
JYPE现在对饭的行为有何反应？饭的愤怒呢？饭们离开DAUM CAFE吧？
JYPE is observing all fan reactions right now and planning any necessary precautions. They are also watching the numbers of the fancafe.
JYPE正在观察饭们的行为，并计划任何有需要的预防行动。他们亦有留意FANCAFE的人数。
are the boys being prepped for the conference? are they even allowed to talk? or just sit there like puppets?
6子是否会为27号的meeting预备？他们会否有说话权？还是他们只会坐在那儿？
Yes they held a meeting about it this afternoon already. The things they say will be script ed. No secret signals can take place.
对，他们已经於今天下午开了会，他们说的东西完全是根据剧本的，他们亦没有机会做任何暗示。
what is jay's reaction when he found out that JYPE damaged his reputation in such way? he didn't know JYPE was going to do this in such cruel way, didn't he?
JAY对公告有何反应？他并不知道JYPE会用如此差的手段对他吧？
He didn't know what JYPE was going to do with him to get rid of him. I don't know his reaction, but I'm sure it would have just been... extreme hurt x48894. And the deep hurt, the kind you feel because you know you can do absolutely nothing about it.
他根本不知道JYPE会如果掉走他。我不知道他的反应，但我肯定他很受伤害。是那种你知道你不能做到任何东西的痛心。
**题外话，JAY和JYP於数日前早已谈过终止合约。JYP跟他说他的回去会影响到现在也做得很好的6PM，所以JAY同意了。直至公告被放出，他们是唯一的两个人知道此事。但当时JYP并没提过用什麽原因去终止合约。
Who is JYP in private? What we only see is his persona when he's on TV. I hope there will be someone who can tell us what's it like working with JYP.
JYP人究竟是怎样的？我们看到的都是电视上的他，但他真人是怎样的呢？
This is what our source was able to tell us:
我们的内幕人士这样说:
"JYP, he is a genius like everyone says. He's strict to the trainees and artists. He likes going clubbing at night... loves the night life. If you do what he expects from you, he probably treat you well."
他就如别人说一样聪明。他对练习生严厉。他喜欢晚上去玩。他喜欢夜生活。如果你做他叫你做的话，他会喜欢你。
You say there is still hope n i will keep on boyXXXotting. But jay's contract has been terminated. He can't return. I want Jay back as much as you all do but i feel like this is the end. What will boyXXXotting achieve now?
你说还有希望所以我会继续抵(爱)制，但JAY的合约被终止了，他回不来。我也想他回来但我觉得这是终点了。抵(爱)制还有什麽用？
We don't know if Jay's contract has been LITERALLY, COMPLETELY terminated. Nothing is impossible. If you keep the faith and continue what you were doing before, but stronger, anything can happen. JYPE is slave to the public. If the public bashes them like hell and rips them apart, they will have no choice but to listen to the public.
我们至今仍不知道JAY的合约是否正式真正的被终止了。
没有事情是不可能的。如果你KEEP THE FAITH，继续你在做的，但更强硬，什麽也可发生。JYPE要聆听公众的意见，如果公众强劲的责备他，他也会没有办法，要听从大众。
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有新的大UPDATE我分段翻译。
Before you read, two things:
你阅读前请记着2件事
1.PLEASE KEEP AN OPEN MIND, BOXXCOTTERS & ANTI-BOXXCOTTERS ALIKE. Again, you don’t have to believe us. We’re not here to force you; we’re here to inform. But please keep an open mind and discard all biases for a few minutes. Please finish reading so this info will be in the back of your mind for you to judge. However, I do need to say this: This piece of information is so logical and crucial that it is your loss if you do not believe.
持开放态度，不论你抵不抵XX制。你不一定要相信，我们不会要你信。我们只是传递讯息。阅读完后请自己分析。
2. What I’m about to write shocked us to death and if you guys don’t keep a calm attitude, hell will ensue. PLEASE KEEP CALM. If we freak out and become impulsive, nothing will be accomplished and matters will only be more complicated.
我写东西会令你们十分惊讶，但请保持冷静，如果我们不冷静，什麽都不会成功，事情会变得更复杂。
Everybody already knows that JYPE knew about Jay’s Myspace comments before the controversy happened, but nobody knows the hidden BEGINNING story. We’ve always wondered why JYPE did nothing about those comments. Here’s the answer:
人人都知道JYPE於事件发生前已知道JAY在MYSPACE的留言，但没人知道最开始的故事。
The Myspace controversy was set up by JYPE.
MYSPACE事件是JYPE制造出来的。
The “Korea is ga..y” and “I hate Koreans” comments were found out by neitzens who just stalked his Myspace. Those were naturally discovered.
那些伤害韩国人的留言是网民自己找到的，是自然被发现。
However, the “slave contracts” comments that Jay posted on his friends’ walls were found out because Jay’s Myspace account was HACKED.
但JAY给朋友关於奴隶约的留言是因为他的ACCOUNT被人入侵。
- In July 2009, a fan saw the “Korea is gXXy” comments while stalking. This was the first time anybody saw those comments. The fan messaged Jay to remove them, but Jay didn’t check his inbox and didn’t reply back to her. The fan, worried, went and sent this to JYPE to tell them that she wanted Jay to remove those comments.
2009七月，一个饭看到伤害韩国人的留言，他告诉JAY去消除那留言，但JAY并未有CHECK他的MESSAGES，没有回答。饭后来惊了，告知JYPE，叫他们让JAY消除留言。
- In late July, a group of netizens hacked into Jay’s account. Because they had access to his account, they could see the conversations between him and his friends. They wanted to see what Jay was talking about, so they translated his messages. It was all mistranslated (as we all know). The neitzens, infuriated, sent screenshots to JYPE. This was the first time the “slave contracts” comments were unearthed; this was when JYPE found out that Jay talked about his contracts with his outside friends. Then, the neitzens spread their screenshots out to the Internet. Later on, JYPE erased and censored out the comments about the slave contract and spread those editted screenshots too.
七月尾，有一班网民入侵了JAY的MYSPACE。他们看到JAY和朋友彼此的对话。他们想知道JAY他们说什麽所以翻译了他的讯息。那是被错误翻译的。网民愤怒，将那画面寄至JYPE。那是奴隶约的留言第一次被揭发。那时JYPE才知道JAY和他的朋友讨论约同。之后网民开始发放那个错误翻译的画面。接着，JYPE去除了那些奴隶约的留言，并发放被改掉的画面。
JYPE was EXTREMELY angry at two things.
JYPE为2件事十分愤怒：
1) Jay showed Korea disrespect through his words (even though that’s just the way he spoke).
JAY对韩国的不尊重(即使那只是他说话的方式)
2) Jay talked about his contracts to outsiders. This is absolutely prohibited. Only family members can know about your contract terms, but not openly to friends and on a public website. The public now knows about the “contract secrets” – terms of his contract that JYPE didn’t want anybody except the artists to know.
JAY和局外人谈他的合约。这是不准许的。只有家人才可知道，合约资料是不被准许放於公众的网页、或是告知给朋友。大众不可以知道合约的秘密，即一些JYPE不想任何人除艺人自己知道的条款。
JYPE knew about the “Korea is gXXy” comments AND his “slave contract” comments two months before the controversy exploded. BUT, Jay did not. They did not bother removing the comments, they did not bother solving it with the neitzens, they did not bother TELLING JAY. He was oblivious. JYPE kept it the way it was. JYPE gave neitzens a chance to spread it everywhere, do whatever they want with it, and IGNORED THE SITUATION WHEN IT EXPLODED AND FAILED TO DEFEND JAY.
JYPE於事件爆发的2个月前已知道伤害韩国以及奴隶约的留言，但JAY自己不知道。JYPE并没有移除那些留言，亦没心和网民解释，亦没心告知JAY。JAY什麽都不知。JYPE让事情如此的进行。JYPE给了网民机会去散发，去做他们想做的，然后不理会事件的爆发也不能保护到JAY。
JYPE was so angry about what Jay did behind their backs, even though Jay was suffering those days, that they wanted him out of the company for ruining and endangering their “nice family” image.
JYPE对JAY在他们背后的行为感到十分愤怒，即使当时JAY辛苦的忍受着，他们选择踢他离开公司，因为他伤害了亦危害了JYPE的'大家庭'形象。
JYPE let the neitzens do whatever they wanted with the screenshots because they wanted that to be their excuse when they kicked Jay out: that this was the neitzens’ fault and not JYPE’s, that it was the neitzens who created this crap and not JYPE, that JYPE had nothing to do with this.
JYPE让网民做所有不同的行为，因为他们想那成为踢走JAY的原因：
1.是网民的错不是JYPE的错
2.是网民造成这事，不是JYPE做的事
3.JYPE和整事没有任何关系
Our Point:
我们的结论：
JYPE could have prevented this WHOLE ENTIRE MESS, but they didn’t because they were angry at Jay. Basically they�were waiting for the right chance to kick Jay Park out.
JYPE本来可阻止整个事情的发生，但他们没有因为他们被jay惹怒了。基本上他们就是在等待正确的机会去踢走JAY...
UPDATE翻译完，我现在去译新的FORMSPRING问题及回答。
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per your new update, i first heard this rumor yesterday. did you hear this from your source? and if so, why are you guys only finding out the true reason now if this has been the real reason all along?
关於你最新的UPDATE，我也是昨天才听见这传闻。你是否从你的内幕人士听到此消息？为什麽你现在才会知道？
We don't know why this news only came out recently. Yes, we heard this from our source so I guess that rumor has been confirmed. Our source also said the 2PM boys didn't know about this either, until yesterday.
我们都是直至这消息昨天传出才知道。我们是从我们的内幕人土听到这消息的，所以这消息已被确实。内幕人士亦说6子也是至昨天才知有此事。
Now that we know the true intentions of JYP from your lastest update. That means there's no chance of him returning to JYP then because they don't want him ever since the beginning. Do you think they would change their mind ?
现在我们知道真相了，不就等如没有机会让jay回去了吗？因为jyp一直不想他回去...你认为他们会妀变决定吗？
No no, that's NOT what we're saying.
不不，这不是我们想表达的。
Remember when we updated a week ago saying that they decided to bring Jay back within a year? THAT WAS TRUE. THEY MADE THAT DECISION A WEEK AGO BECAUSE THEY SAW THE STRONG EFFECTS OF THE BOXXYCOTT. They had NO CHOICE but to decide to bring him back.
你记得我们一个星期前的UPDATE吗？当时他们决定了於一年内带JAY回去。那是真实的。当时他们见到抵XX制的强大威力，所以没办法要带JAY回来。(我没时间译那篇UPDATE，但当时他们都以为JAY将回来了...)
However, they decided a few days ago that they wouldn't bring him back. We do NOT know the reason for this sudden change of mind.
但他们於几日前忽然决定不带JAY回来，我们不知道为何他们会突然改变想法。
I ask this Q is not because I don't believe what u gals said...but just wonder if JYPE is waiting for the right chance to kick Jay Park out...why give hope to him in Dec 09, and plan for his come back?...I am a bit confuse...sorry...
我问这个不是我不相信，但如果JYPE想踢JAY走，为何会於12月9日给JAY希望，计划他回来？我有点不明白...
I will repeat this again and again:我会重复再重复：
because of the boyXXcott.因为抵XX制行动。
They didn't know fans were going to react this crazily when they wanted to kick him out. They thought that his "Korean is gay" comments were enough to make everybody angry with him. But, they were wrong. Our boyXXcott effects affected them strongly, and they had NO CHOICE but to decide to bring him back.
他们没预计到饭会有如此大的反应。他们以为诋毁韩国的留言会令所有人都被他惹怒。但他们错了。我们的抵制非常有影响力。他们只好让JAY回来。
That was before. We don't know why they suddenly had a change of mind.
这是之前的事，我们不知道为何他们会突然改变想法。
can't the boys band together to save jay? just like god did back in the day?
难道6子不可一齐救JAY吗？就如GOD那时一样？
I don't know if they have the power too, but Khun did try to talk to Jungwook but was ignored
我不知道他们有没有这样的权力，但KHUN曾尝试和JUNGWOOK(JYPE第二大股东)谈，却被无视。
我的意见：成员现在做不了什麽，所以是我们饭的任务去救JAY啊!
JYPE took down the 1:59PM poster on their window panes...hottests' actions are working...right?
JYPE拿走了公司大楼上的1:59PM海报了，HOTTESTS的行动有效了，对吗？
JYPE took it down to calm the fans.
JYPE会.拿掉了去令饭们冷静而已
新UPDATE!!
We’ve mentioned before that 2PM and their manager will hold a meeting in the dorm to discuss the fanmeet on the 27th. This meeting was held on the afternoon of the 26th. This is what our source was able to tell us:
我们提过6PM和经理人们会於宿舍开会，谈论27号的事情。这个会议26号下午进行了。内幕消息如下：
“Their manager is wants 2PM there to calm the fans at the fanmeet. The quieter members might get to answer fan questions, but Taecyeon will probably be the one doing the most talking. This will be part of JYPE’s leader test. JYPE want to see how they’ll be handling with this situation themselves. It might be to test how they calm the fans since� JYPE is there to look out for the new leaders performances “live”. However, most parts are still script ed.. sadly.”
他们的经理人想6子於MEETING冷静饭们。早前较静默的成员会回答饭的问题。但代理会说最多，这是JYPE的队长试验(INSIDER2PM早前有提过JYPE想选新队长)。JYPE想看6子如何应付这情况。有可能会试探他们如何让饭们冷静因为jype会於那儿看候选新队长的临场表现。但大部份仍会依剧本进行...
This is our source’s message to the Hottests who are attending the meeting on the 27th:
这是内幕人士给去MEETING的饭的讯息：
“Don’t get shaken. Stay where you are as a boyXXcotter. Be brave, stand up, and tell them how you feel about JYPE. It’s best to say how important 2PM is with Jay rather then 6. Show how bad 6pm is doing now, like 6pm might be doing well but show that 6pm is weak now. Strengthen your argument of why Jay should be brought back.”
不要动摇。继续抵制。勇敢点，站起来，告诉他们你对JYPE的想法。最好就是说2PM有JAY时是多麽重要。告诉他们6PM做得如何差，说6PM可能现在於公众表现得很好，但内里却很弱。加强你那为何要带JAY回去的论据。
This is irrelevant to everything above, but is too short to make a whole new post on so I will include it here.
这是一个短消息，我会在此UPDATES加上：
“Not confirmed, but a manager says there might be a release of a video with Jay in it later.”
未被肯定，但经理人说一会儿后有可能发出JAY的VIDEO...
翻译作者的话：怎办，我不忍心看JAY说谎...不忍心看6PM被人玩弄着...很怕
is the fancafe on daum important? like would jyp care if the # of members on that decrease?
DAUM FANCAFE真的这样重要吗？JYP会理会成员的数目吗？
Yes, because that fancafe is the one JYPE runs. They are watching the numbers decrease, for sure
重要。因为这FANCAFE是JYPE的，他们现在就在看着数目下降着。
大家还有在DAUM CAFE的退出好吗？><
还有，6子真的知得很少，公告的消息他们比我们还迟知道，因为他们当时都在录映节目。
这网也说他们当晚哭了很久。但肉肉是唯一被别人看见他哭的人。
6子做了什麽我可以直接告诉你。
肉肉一直以来都是最明显的支持抵制，我们当时阅读到的那些暗示都是真的。灿灿也是表明抵制的。KHUN亦於最早期表明过立场，这个我会再告诉大家详细的资料。其余的成员未能经常表明自己立场。
不过最近6子经常提起jay是JYPE的策略。想吸引JAY的饭，亦是我曾提到的队长试验。
This is irrelevant to Jay’s boyxxcott situation, but many people have been asking why Wooyoung’s cyworld was shut down.
这不是和抵制有关的事情，但很多人问了为何肉的cyworld关了。
Two reasons:
2个原因：
1) JYPE was already unhappy with the boys’ cyworlds because of Taeyceon’s cyworld scandal where he yelled at fans and was being rude.
JYPE已对孩子们的CYWORLD感到不满，因为代理有CYWORLD的传闻(这个我有机会会解释一下)，说他对饭们没礼貌。
2) Wooyoung was the one that most actively posted pro-boyXXcott and pro-Jay cryptic messages. Everybody was aware of this so many fans questioned him about Jay’s matters.
肉肉是那个最明显支持抵制的的，亦不断放上支持的暗示於CYWORLD，很多人(不只包括饭)得释了，饭们不断问肉CYWORLD上的是否和JAY有关。
JYPE wanted all of this cyworld chaos to stop, so he just shut down Wooyoung’s cyworld to prevent anymore drama.
JYPE想所有CYWORLD的事情停止，所以关了肉的CYWORLD
The rest of the 2PM members have contact with Jay, right? There's no way that JYPE can just cut off internet, phone, even snail mail, and everything.
6子有合约在身的吧？JYPE不可能可以断了他们的网络、电话、任何联络方法吧？
They do. They're not allowed to contact him though, technically.
他们有合约是对的，但却不被准许去联络JAY。
did the 6 boys do anything rebellious after the announcement?
6子知道公告后有反抗吗？
Well, some members cried and Khun went to the JYPE office to try and talk to Jungwook
...有成员哭了，而KHUN则去了JYPE OFFICE尝试和JUNGWOOK(JYPE第二大股东)谈
Do you think in a few days, people will be over this or will it last longer? I think it will last longer! Also why would JYPE ruin the other boys reputation and their comeback?
你觉得几天后，人们会忘了这件事还是会持续更久？ 我觉得他会持续更久 另外为什么JYPE破坏其它几只的声誉而且还会回归？
No. It will not be over in a few days. As long as JYPE refuses to answer or deal with it truthfully, this will be dragged for as long as JYPE makes it.
不。 事情不会在几天之内就过去了。只要JYPE拒绝如实回答或者处理， 这将会一直拖延下去。
We don't know what the hell they're doing, dragging both Jay and 6PM into this. They just want to protect their overall company image. Artists mean nothing to them.
我们不知道他们正在捣什么鬼，把JAY和6只拖延到现在这样。他们只是想保护公司的整体形象，艺人对他们而且毫无意义。
is there anyway you can relay a message to the boys? tell them to listen to their song follow your soul and do exactly what the words say: "follow your soul...don't ever lie"
你们有没有可能早点给6子讯息，叫他们如最近他们的歌一样，FOLLOW YOUR SOUL，不要说谎。
Yes, we've told our source this before, even though we know the boys will be screened at the fanmeeting. Our source said that the boys said "Don't worry about us. Care about Jay."
有，我们有如此跟内幕人士说过，即使我们知道6子会於meeting中被监视着。内幕人士告诉我们，说6子如此说：「不用担心我们，理会jay先吧。」
Is there any chance to let the hottest who are going to the conference tomorrow know about your last 2 updates? ): so they can prepare..
有没有可能让去meeting的hottets知道你最近的两个update？如此这样，他们就可以作准备吧。
=_= Our Underground source just left. We wanted her to spread to Underground ASAP!
=_= 我们有联络的underground朋友刚走了，我们亦想她为我们於underground散发消息！
I guess it has to up to us...
我想现在唯有我们可以有行动了。
自己的话：所以去meeting的韩饭未必会知道最新的内幕消息...很担心他们...
Is there any chance that a third party outside of JYPE/2PM who knows Jay personally could EVER speak up on his behalf? I mean, they're not under contract... Is JYPE's influence THAT strong that even his family/AOM can't say anything to clear his name?
会不会有机会让一个第三者（不於JYPE却认识JAY的）为JAY说话？这人不会有合约嘛...JYPE有这样大的影响力去令JAY的家人或AOM不为他还个清白吗？
People outside have cleared his name. Like us. AOM members have cleared his name too, and there have been many insiders speaking up. However, it is all disregarded as rumors because everything is done over the Internet.
第三者就是我们呀。AOM有为JAY说过话，亦有很多内幕人士曾经说过话。但是这都被人当作是传闻，因为他们是於网上澄清的...
That's how our world operates. If it is not JYPE/2PM, it's a rumor that could be false. -_-
这就是我们的世界。如果不是JYPE/2PM说的，人们总会觉得传闻是假的-_-
By boyXXcott, do we boycXXott not only JYPE but also Cube and Big Hit?
你说的抵制，包括了CUBE和BIG HIT吗？
BoycoXXtting Cube and Big Hit won't really do anything. Just boyXXcott all of JYPE. ALL OF JYPE - 2PM, WG, 2AM, Joo, etc.
抵制CUBE和BIG HIT洗不会有什麽用，只抵制JYPE的艺人吧。2PM，WG，2AM，JOO，等。
自己的话：INSIDER早前叫大家强烈抵制，不再是只抵制6PM，但JYPE的都要抵制。当然这是建议，到最后都是你我的选择
disregard your conspiracy thoughts,what if jay speak up saying that was really his decision.. will that convince you? did u ever consider thinking that jay is also a person and he's feelings will not be healed that quickly..
无视你的阴谋想法，如果JAY说出他真的是他的决定， 是不是会让你相信? 你就从没想过JAY也是个人并且它的伤口不会迅速愈合
If Jay spoke up and said it was his decision, a statement was is NOT RELEASED BY JYPE - in fact, a statement that our source and only our source tells us, we will drop the boycxxxott in the blink of an eye.
We are not here to FORCE anybody to do anything, and that includes Jay. We love seven, but if he didn't want to come back, we would not be boycoxxtting. He would not be happy there anyway if he did not want to come back.
如果JAY开口说这是他的决定，并且真的不是由JYPE所发布。实际上， 只有我们的内幕告诉我们，我们才会放弃抵制。
我们在这里不是强迫任何人去做任何事，包括JAY。我们爱7只，但是如果他不想回来，我们不会抵制。他不会感到高兴的，如果他不想要回来
Are the Khottest aware of the lie that JYPE started? I sure hope so!! Someone needs to translate and post it!
KHOTTESTS们知道了JYPE的谎言了吗？我希望他们知道！什麽人跟他们翻译一下吧！
Yea! We wanted to hand it to Underground, but our Underground contact just signed off. -_- We only have two Koreans who work with us, and only one is online right now. We need both to make sure the translated version is flawless D:
我们也想将消息告诉UNDERGROUND，但和我们联络的UNDERGROUND成员刚才离线了。我们队伍里只有2个韩国人，而现在只有一个在线。我们要肯定翻译了的消息完美才行...
这个我真的很想翻译。有人说抵制是伤害6子的行为，但大家应该看清楚些啊！
I'm so sad for the 6 boys if they have to say as script ed. I don't want them to do things that they will regret for the rest of their life. (Sorry for a non-question post)
如果6子说的话是有剧本的，我真的很伤心。我不想他们做一些他们余生会后悔的事。
I think they've already started their path of doing things against their own will... That's why we're boycoXXtting. We're not boycXXotting to bring down six and save 1. We're boycoXXtting to save the SEVEN. They need our help.
我想，他们一早就踏上了这条违背自己意愿的路了吧。所以我们要抵制，我们不是要令踩下6子去救JAY，而是救他们7个，他们全都需要我们的帮忙。
Even though i want Jay and 2PM to comeback togther, i really dont want him going back to JYPE under JYP again. He's been hurt enough by the man himself. Going back would be like asking for more beating from that MAN
尽管我希望JAY和2pm一起回来，我真的不希望他回到JYPE回到JYP手下。他已经被伤够了，回来就好像会有更多的打击来自于JYP
It's a difficult decision, right? We've talked about this amongst ourselves too.
But... Jay's desires matter more than ours. He wants to go back, because that's where his brothers are, the people he loves are.
这是个困难的觉得对吗? 我们们自己也谈论过这个问题。
但是 JAY的希望更为重要。 他想回来 因为 这里有他爱的兄弟
这个很重要!
If the rumor of a video of Jay was true, then what should we do now? If he was forced to say what he doesn't really feel, how are we supposed to know? What exactly can we do at this time? I feel like crying over and over
如果关於JAY的VIDEO的消息是真的话，我们怎办？如果他是被迫的，我们怎样可以知？我很想哭...(我的话：我也想哭...)
Well, we updated you guys about the video because if one does come out, you guys will know it's forced. Remember, there are insiders!
We will continue boyXcott. BOYCOXXTT, GIRL.
如果是真的，我们会第一时间告诉大家，那你们就会知道了。记着，我们有内幕人士帮忙！
我们会继续抵制。抵制呀！
*我的话：大家真的不妨SEND EMAIL写到fan@jype.com，我自己send了。不要觉得没有东西可帮忙，meeting前都send email吧！
我现在最担心的是JAY的感受， 你们的内幕人知不知道他现在怎么样？
Jay... is suffering. Just put the situation onto yourself, and times that by 100. That's the only way I can describe it.
JAY很痛苦。
换作是你 把这个痛苦乘以100倍 这是我唯一能形容的
Is there any pratical things we oversea fans can do? it's really frustrating cos it feels like we watching this happen as some outsiders...
有没有什麽我们国际饭可做的？这样如个局外人般真的令我好懊恼！
Khottests use physical boxxycotting, we use Internet boycxotting. Don't think that we're "littler" than them just because we live far away. We have a role to fulfill too. JYPE cares about International fans. Use the Internet and spread the word.
khottets用的是身体力行的抵制，我们有的是网上抵制。不要因为我们住得遥远就有"我们比韩饭小"的想法，我们也有我们的职务的！jype是会关注国际饭的。利用网络去散发消息吧。
there's a recent rumor up on 2OD saying that this WAS jay's decision... has your source said anything on this matter?
2ONEDAY 最新的消息说这是JAY做的决定 内幕者有对此事说什么吗?
... Jay had -1% idea about them terminating his contract. They called him to tell them what they thought, what they wanted, and basically... he had to agree with it. The moment JYPE says "you will be dragging down the 6 members", Jay will quietly accept it and back off.
JAY有-1%的终止合约的想法。他们给JAY打电话，告诉JAY他们的想法，他们希望什么样的结果， 基本上.. JAY同意了 但那是因为jype说JAY会拖累其他6人 JAY只能默默退步。
那通电话的内容是
"2pm现在做得很好,即使你不回来,他们也能完美地填补你的位置.
他们现在以他们的努力成功了,
即使他们不表示,假如你回来,你将会给他们造成混乱
你会动摇了现在的平衡.
你现在在那里做得那麼好,
假如你回来,我们不能保证你会比前做得更好
所以即使你回来,而你又无法在舞台上做得好的话,会给其他成员带来坏处
想清楚,你不是在那里感到很快乐吗?
成员少了你,明显做得很好,所以你不必担心
假如你担心那些终止合约的款项,我们会降低款项
我们会为你无法回来的事件定一个原因所以你不必担心那些解释
可是条件是, 你一定不可以做任何事给歌迷造成误解
我们会用不伤害其他成员的方法通知他们
所以你不用担心关於你的行动
我们对此感到抱歉,希望你被祝福。 "
翻译chyyyylol
How's Jay's family?? It must be so hard for them!
JAY的家人怎样了？他们一定很辛苦吧！
They're doing okay. Extremely worried for their son, but that's a given. At this point, it seems like everybody needs strength, right?
他们暂时OK。非常担心着自己的儿子，但这个每个人都知道吧。这个时期，大家都需要点力量，不是吗？
love every single one of 2PM members and that includes Jay. If Jay knows that there are plans out there to boyxxxcott his brothers because of him, wouldn't he be upset? It's bad enough he was made to feel guilty for something he did not do, and now this.
我爱2pm每个人包括JAY，如果JAY知道这边因为他有计划抵制他的兄弟，他不会失望吗？ 已经够糟糕了 他背负着内疚对之前的事情 现在又有这些事情
Well, of course he wants his brothers to do well. He still thinks to this day that he dragged them down. But, love is not listening to every single thing the person wants; it is doing what is best for the person, even if it hurts you, even if it goes against what they say.
Jay knows this deep down, no matter what he tries to tell everybody. That only a boyxxxcott will work & that it will save his brothers and him in the end.
好吧， 当然他希望他的兄弟都很好。 他还是会觉得自己拖累了他们。 但是，不是听从个人所想的， 爱是为那个人做正确的事 即使会伤害你，即使反对他们所说的。JAY心里知道，就算是他尝试告诉别人。 抵制是唯一有效地， 会保护他兄弟和他到最后。
What are the boys reaction to the newest update? Jay's reaction?
成员对於你最新的update(我想是指jype早知道jay的myspace的事情)有何反应？jay呢？
Upset, betrayed, shocked. I don't know about Jay's reaction. I don't think he knows yet. Honestly, I sincerely hope this does not reach him. I don't... even want to imagine what his reaction would be.
6子都很伤心、觉得被背叛、惊讶。我不清楚jay的反应。我不认为他知道。说真的，我希望这不会传至他耳。我不忍心能想象他的反应...
do you think at this moment...and how the things are going on 2PM might disband :/? because that will be so sad...
你觉得这时候，2pm有可能解散吗？这样会很令人痛心...
They are not disbanding. If they were, they wouldn't be preparing a new album.
他们不会解散，如果会，他们怎会预备新专辑呢？
omg on 2pm's schedule it says that Taec is going to record KJE Chocolate BY HIMSELF. is this the beginning of the new leader thing? or just another test? i don't know what to think anymore!!
糟了！2pm的行程上说代理独自会录制KJE朱古力！这是队长试验吗？还是什麽试验？
Most likely a leader test -_-;
极有可能是另一个队长试验-_-;
If the other 6 boys can't do anything for Jay when he has done so much for them. Saying they are powerless to me is just an excuse. I believe they can speak up but they didn't. I seriously don't understand. Right now, they're no different than betrayers
如果在JAY承担了这么多事情的情况下，6只不能为JAY做任何事。 如果他们说自己力量单薄对于我来说只是借口 我相信他们能说出来 但是他们没有这样做
No no. You are wrong. Do you really think the boys have that much power in the company? It is the company that makes their decisions. They can't do ANYTHING about it. They receive orders, and must follow them. JYPE holds their career, their job, their image, their lifeline in its hands. Please do not blame the boys. They have been just as confused as us. The least thing we need right now is people BASHING the boys... does that even make sense?! If Jay knew about the difficulty going on right now with the six of the, he'd get FURIOUS at us. I'm not joking.
不 你错了 他们在公司没有力量反驳 公司在为他们做决定 他们什么也没法做
他们接到命令必须遵守 JYPE控制着他们的职业 工作 形象 和 他们的生命线。 不要责备他们 他们也向我们这样抗拒过 不要过度去攻击他们 如果JAY知道 他们身处险境
他会对我们暴怒 我不是在开玩笑
Whether you believe this or not is up to you but we wouldn't be posting this up if we (all branches of insider sites) didn't believe 100% that it is real. We know it's going to bring up a lot of questions and skeptical thoughts, but please remember that although we cannot completely prove anything, this was from an inside source. So before accusing us of making things up, think it through.
不管你是否相信都随便你,但是我们不会PO我们不100%相信的事实.
我们知道这将会提集到非常多的问题与怀疑.
但是请记住,就算我们不能完全的证明,但这些消息都是来自於内部(JYP)的来源的.
所以在指控我们或是编造任何故事之前,请想清楚.
kind of want to email, but I don't know what to say. Can you put up some ideas for emails?
我想send email，但不知道说些什麽。你可以给我一些头绪吗？
One of the most important things to mention is the fact that there will be hundreds of thousands of fans boycoxxtting for as long as 2PM is broken like this. Please also remember to include any information you think will persuade the company financially, as they place high value on their profits.
一样很重要的就是提到如果2pm仍是不完整，将会有好多好多饭抵制。亦要记着提到任何对他公司做成金钱上的威胁的资料，因为他们很重视$$
Nichkhun 的 twitter
Before I start explaining anything, I'd like to say that we actually debated for a long time on whether to release these screencaps of Khun's twitter or not. We finally decided that we should since it was brought up on formspring and also since our Thailand -insider affiliate had already posted it a while ago.
在我解释任何事情之前,我想先说我们其实已经争论关於是否要释放KHUN的TWITTER的图片(像是对KHUN的TWIT网页照相那类的)很久了.
最终我们决定我们应该要提到我们与formspring以及T-insider密集联络其实已经进行一段时间了.
Nichkhun 的 twitter
从我们内部来源当中, 下面几个萤幕照片是11/10 的资讯 .
请在阅读一次这些明显的声明. 那些声名大致上都跟成员们支持抵制的时间相辅.
(pics)(我不会贴图, 所以我用打的)
2PMKhun Help Leadja Fight Hottest (帮助Jay)
2PMKhun Please keep supporting 2pm (请继续支持2PM)
2PMKhun I can't say too much but I want hottest to know that my acc was hacked.
(我不能说太多,但我希望HOTTSET们知道我的帐号被黑了)
Those three tweets were written by Khun himself on November 5th. His very last tweet clearly says to help fight for Jay. Notice that the screenshot is the home page view, with an icon next to each tweet, meaning that Khun was the only one who would've been able to screenshot this since only he could log into the account. And how exactly did Khun's screenshot get to us? It was given to our source. By Khun himself or somebody else, we don't know.
那三个TWEETS都是KHUN自己本人在11/05写的.
他最后一个TWEET很明确的说到了:FIGHT FOR JAY.
请注意到了那些萤幕照片都是在首页的.
在头像旁边的每一个TWEET(KHUN打出来的句子),都代表著KHUN是唯一一个没有办法去照萤幕照片的人.
因为只有KHUN才能登入进去帐号,所以KHUN怎麼可能会照这些照片给我们呢?
这些照片都是从内部来的.
但我们无法知道说这照片到底是KHUN自己给我们还是别人给我们的.
if things r more complicated than it seems,will Jay be really ok to come back to JYPE ? he wont be mistreated or anything like that right ?
如果事情是这样复杂的话，JAY回去JYPE会没问题吗？他不会被虐待或是什麽吧？
No, he won't be. Many many many people love Jay.
不，他不会。有好多好多人爱着JAY的。
(个人认为他是指JYPE里也有很多人支持JAY的)
is there a way to bring jay back even tho hes kicked out?!
即使他被踢走，有办法带JAY回来吗？
Well our source feels that there's still a chance that Jay can be brought back. Since our source knows more about the inner workings of JYPE, I think there would be a reason behind this belief.
我们的内幕人士说还有机会的。内幕人士知道JYPE的内部运作，我认为我们可以相信他的说法。
so the announcement is fake, can we suggest jay's family to sue JYPE? have they come to the point of thinking about legal action?
所以说那公告是假的吧，我们可以建议JAY家人去告JYPE吗？他们会想到要有法律行动吗？
We don't know about Jay's family right now =/ I haven't heard anything after the announcement yesterday. Also, the announcement isn't fake. The INFORMATION in there is fake.
我们不知道JAY的家人怎样想=/我从昨天公告之后都没有听到任何东西。
还有，公告不是假的，里面的资料才是假的。
Miss S, a k-hottest who works with the Insider2PM branches, suggested that we all voice our opinions to JYPE directly. Since many International Hottests have a lot of things on their mind about this issue and a lot of pent up anger, pain, sadness… let’s tell them how we feel. If we get enough people emailing JYPE, it’ll show that not only k-hottests still want Jay back (and won’t take anymore of this BS), but the entire world as well.
一个在insider2pm分支的韩饭，建议我们向jyp直接表达我们的心声，许多国际fan有很多想法，生气的，痛苦的，伤心的。让我们告诉他们我们的感受。如果我们有足够的人去给jype发邮件，这样的举动会告诉他们不光是韩饭在继续支持着让jay回来
2月23日update
有几个短update：
- JYPE will be promoting Junho a lot now. They will try to hide it by using Chansung too as a cover-up.
jype将会宣传皇帝为主。他们亦会用灿灿当cover up。
- I hate to break it to you guys, but Chansung will probably not be able to do anything during the meeting on the 27th. He is the youngest; he will have no place to criticize/say anything/rebel.
灿灿於27号(即今天)不会能够做到些什麽。他最年幼，没权力。
- The meeting between JYP and Jungwook is taking place on Thursday (KST). Our source said JYPE is changing many things now… we don’t know what things.
JYP和JUNGWOOK会於星期四开会（就是昨天）。我们的内幕人士说有很多事情变了...但我们不知道他指的是什麽。
- Not a lot of details are known about the concert yet. The concert will be used to test fans’ feelings. That should be obvious. (It’d be interesting if absolutely nobody showed up at the concert… just an empty hall. Kind of impossible, but that would be an awesome statement.)
没有什麽关於演唱会的资料。演唱会是用来试验饭们的。这很明显。
Our source wants to leave a message for you guys:
I want to tell them that we walk together.
We can not let go of Jay’s hand.
内幕人士叫我们跟大家说：
我想和他们说我们是一起走的。
我们不可放开JAY的手。
2月25日的UPDATE
- Jay’s contract is normally 7-8 years. He hasn’t technically worked for JYPE for the past five months, and there’s no way that JYPE’s going to let that slide. Because of this, there is a possibility that JYPE will add a year or two onto Jay’s contract once he comes back.
JAY的合约应该是7-8赞年的。他过去的5个月都没有为JYPE工作，JYPE应该不会放过这好处。JYPE有可能会加一/两年於合约上。
- If Jay comes back, 2PM is going to have to step up their game significantly. If their popularity doesn’t increase, JYPE won’t mind cutting Jay’s contract off short since he will be useless to them.
如果JAY回来的话，2PM就要加把劲了。如果他们的人气不明显上升，JYPE不会介意将JAY的合约缩短因为JAY会变得无用。
- On the other hand, Jay’s the last hope 2PM has of regaining the profits that they lost. This is a big reason why he hasn’t been cut off completely and it’s the most important reason as to why JYPE would want to bring him back.
JAY是2PM去拿回失去的PROFIT的最后希望。这就是JAY没被完全赶走的原因，亦是带他回来的最大原因。
- Discussions about a new leader are still ongoing. Whether or not they will actually choose one is still unknown. It depends on whether or not they decide to bring Jay back. Members are constantly being tested.
有关队长的议案仍存在。他们究竟会不会选一个还是未知，这会被JAY会否回来影响。成员不断被试验。
The meeting between the six boys and their manager will happen very soon. We will update once we get information.
经理人和6子的MEETING仍会发生，我们会尽快让大家知道更多。
We have not been informed about which fanclubs have been chosen to go to the meeting on the 27th. There is also a possibility that Junsu will not make it to this meeting because he might still be recovering from his Rhinitis surgery.
没有人告诉我们谁被选了去27号的CONFERENCE。秀秀有可能不会出现，因为他有鼻炎手术。去不去要看他状态。
Note: Another song is close to being finished. Jay’s parts have been taken out for now, but they can always record again. This is in no means a reason to give up hope. If anything, it’s reason to work even harder.
又有一首歌接近完成了。JAY的一部份暂时被拿掉了，但他们还是可以重录的。这不会是我们放弃的原因，反而应该是我们加油的原因。
Our source has another message:
Regarding Jay’s situation, there is definitely more to it than just the Myspace controversy. This is between Jay and JYPE, so we don’t have anything else to say about it.
内幕人士有讯息：
JAY的情况是，在MYSPACE事情后有更多事情不被人知的。这是JAY和JYPE的事情，所以我们没有什麽可说。
这是我问的问题：
is there anything specific that the chinese hottets can do? i've been translating a lot of things on tieba now, so many people know the situation. is there anything specific that you might want us to do?
有没有什麽让我们中国HT做？我一直在翻译，令更多人知道情况。有什麽特别的事情我们可帮忙？
Just keep spreading the info and have fans write to fan@jype.com, since they do aim for the Chinese market, your opinions are important. Make it clear that you guys aren't going to support their artists if that's the way they treat them. Oh and of course, do not buy anything from the company.
就一直将情况传开去吧。叫他们EMAIL到JYPE，因为他们是FOCUS中国市场的。说清楚如果这是JYPE对待自己艺人的手法，你们不会再支持JYPE的艺人。还有，不要为JYPE买任何产品。
2PM=7！NO JAY NO 2PM！！！
看完之后心真的很痛！真像个噩梦！
JAY是想回来的，因为这里有他爱的兄弟！
JAY同意退队，因为为了他爱的兄弟！
Jay... is suffering
I'm suffering...T_T
